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US Missile Shield: It is like a loaded gun pointed at someone’s head – interview – Bruce Gagnon
February 25, 2013 · 0 Comments
Gagnon shares little known facts about the militarization of space by the United States, the development of first strike space drones and the foundation of the US Military Industrial Complex by Nazi scientists bent on victory in World War III. If you thought missile defense and drones were bad, you haven’t heard anything yet.
Robles: According to your organization the US Space Command has publicly stated they intent to control space in order to protect US interests and investments. Is space now US territory?
Gagnon: Well, indeed the United States likes to believe that it is its own space, and particularly the Space Command, who on their headquarters building in Colorado Springs, just above the doorway they have their logo that reads “Master of Space”. So, I think that it is quite evident that the Space Command does indeed view space as US territory that must be controlled because they clearly understand that all warfare on the earth today is coordinated by space technology and that whoever essentially controls space will control the planet below, in this case on behalf I believe of corporate globalization. And so the Space Command in our thinking has become the military arm of corporate globalization.
And so today the US is developing a whole host of technologies to allow it to fight war from space, through space and in space, controlling not only the Earth but also the pathway on and off the planet Earth, the pathway to other planetary bodies as resources are discovered on other planets: magnesium, cobalt, uranium, gold, water etc.
In a congressional study done back in the 1980s, the Congress gave the Pentagon the mandate to develop the technologies to control the pathway on and off the planet Earth. So, the Space Command sees its role in a very-very robust kind of way.
Robles: Several questions just popped up after what you just said. First one: how do they intend to “control the pathway”, I mean there is not only one pathway off the planet, I mean, how are they going to do that?
Gagnon: Well, in this particular study entitled “Military Space Forces the Next 50 Years”, they talk about the Earth-Moon Gravity Well, that whoever controls the Earth-Moon Gravity Well, essentially with bases on the Moon and armed space stations between, what they said were the L4 and L5 positions in space, they would be able to control these.
And interestingly enough, we know that it was in fact the former Nazi scientists that were brought to the United States following World War II under a program, a secret program, called Operation Paper Clip. These Nazi scientists that ran Hitler’s V1 and V2 rocket programs, they were the first to bring to the Congress of the United States, this idea of having orbiting battle stations controlling the pathway on and off the planet as well as the Earth below.
So, today again there is the whole host of technologies that are being developed by the Space Command. They say at the Pentagon that we are not going to get all of these technologies to work, but through the investment and the research and development in these various technologies, things like “Rods from God”: orbiting battle stations with tungsten-steel rods they would be able to hit targets on the Earth below…
Robles: They call those “Rods from God”?
Gagnon: Yes, they call it “Rods from God”. The new military space plane that is being tested now by the Pentagon, it has shown its ability to stay in orbit for a whole year at a time: an unpiloted space drone essentially. And then with ground stations all over the planet that the United States has established, what they call downlink stations that communicate with US military satellites all over the planet. This whole network has been put into place to really give the US, as they say in one of their planning documents, “control and domination of space”.
Reminder
Robles: More questions: The space drone that you just mentioned, it is actually… it’s operational right now?
Gagnon: It is called the X37B, it’s been over the past couple of years. The testing program has accelerated and they’ve had three successful launches of it now. Just recently, I believe it was just at the end 2012, was the last of the missions, the third mission actually. But prior to that they had one of them spend a whole year in space.
The role of this X37B, or the military space plane, is somewhat in dispute. Some people believe that it is for surveillance, to spy on various countries, like Russia and China. Or others believe that it is actually a first strike weapons system whose job would be to fly down from orbit, drop an attack on a particular country.
In fact the Space Command annually war games a first strike attack on China set in the year 2016. And in one of the articles, in one of the industry publications, Aviation Week and Space Technology, I read a report about the first weapon that was used in one of these computer war game attacks of China, was this military space plane. So, indeed they are war gaming with it as a first strike weapon.
Robles: Now, you mentioned Nazi scientists a minute ago, I mean, it is not a very widely known fact that after World War II, I believe it was, about 400,000 Nazis found refugee in the United States. Can you tell us a little more on the scientists that were developing these programs and working with the US Government? Can you expand on that a little bit?
Gagnon: Under Operation Paper Clip, 1,200 Nazis were brought into the United States, former Nazi intelligence. They were brought in to help create the CIA.
Wernher von Braun, the Nazi scientist that ran the V1 and V2 operations was brought in. He became one of the leaders of NASA and he built the first successful rockets that were launched by the US military after the Kennedy Administration wanted to respond to the Soviet Union’s launch of Sputnik.
Other Nazi scientists were brought in to create US Flight Medicine programs, the MKUltra LSD-drug experiments of the 1960s in the United States, where people were jumping out of windows and killing themselves because they were given drugs.
The people that were running these were the former Nazi scientists who had been doing similar tests on prisoners of war and Jews and other people in concentration camps inside of Germany.
So, the entire military industrial complex was seeded with these top Nazi operatives. And I’ve always maintained that when you do that: “Is there an ideological contamination that comes along with that?” My belief is: indeed there is.
Robles: That’s exactly the point I wanted to make myself.
Gagnon: Major-General Walter Dornberger was the Head of Hitler’s secret Space Development Program. He was brought to the United States to work for Bell Aerospace in New York State after the war.
He testified before the Congress in the 1950s. And I can quote him, he said to the Congress: “Gentlemen, I didn’t come to this country to lose the third world war, I lost two already.” And he again was one of the first to layout this vision of control of space, giving the US full control of the planet Earth.
Bruce Gagnon is the coordinator for the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space.
US Missile Shield: It is like a loaded gun pointed at someone’s head – interview
In part 2 of an exclusive interview with the Voice of Russia, Bruce Gagnon the coordinator for the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space shares more little known facts about the hidden Pentagon secret black budget program, militarization of space by the United States and details the way the US will carry out a “successful” first strike attack against China and Russia. If you thought NATO expansion, the US Missile Shield and space drones were bad, listen to how they will all work together to help the US take over the world.
Hello, this is John Robles, I’m speaking with Bruce Gagnon, he’s the Coordinator for the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space.
Robles: Very, I think, important, what you mentioned about the first-strike capability of the X37B in the space war games. Can you tell us a little bit more about that and anything related to Russia that you’ve heard about?
Gagnon: The X37B, being hailed, being promoted to the public as a successor to the space shuttle, is indeed much more than that. It was a hidden Pentagon secret black budget program, initially costing more than a billion dollars.
Again, it had three tests, the last test kept the X37B in space for about a whole year. It was able to do many things, including, we’re told: spy on a Chinese satellite.
Many people believe it could also serve as an anti-satellite weapon, while up in space, obviously it would have the ability to take out of commission another country’s satellites. So, prior to a first-strike attack, for example, if you took out another country’s satellite, Russia or China, then you would essentially help to blind them to the incoming attack from the United States.
So, I think this military space plane would play those kinds of roles. But this is coupled with the deployments of U.S. missile-defense systems that are today being used to surround Russia and China, both on ground-based launchers and on ships, and this program has really accelerated under the Obama Administration.
The Patriot, PAC-3 missile defense systems that are going into Poland and Turkey, the SM-3, the Standard Missile 3 interceptors that are onboard, Navy Aegis Destroyers are being now put into the Mediterranean Sea and eventually will be deployed in the Black, the Baltic and the Barents Seas. And these same interceptor missiles are going to be also ground-based in Poland and Romania in the years to come.
So this same encirclement that is now happening around Russia is being deployed around China. The U.S. is deploying the so-called missile defense systems in Taiwan, in Japan, Okinawa, South Korea and on these Navy Aegis Destroyers bumping up against the coast of mainland China.
Missile defense systems are key elements in this overall U.S. first-strike attack program. In fact, referring again to the computer war game that I told you about earlier, that in the year 2016, after the initial U.S. attack of China (and China has very small nuclear force of about 20 nuclear missiles that are capable of hitting the West Coast in the U.S.), after that initial first-strike attack by the U.S., China then tries to fire its remaining retaliatory capability. And it is at that time that the missile defense system is used to take out China’s remaining retaliatory capability, giving the U.S. a quote unquote “successful first-strike attack”.
And so, again at the same time, the U.S. is deploying these missile defense systems really misnamed because they’re such key elements in the offensive first-strike attack program. But the U.S. is deploying these to surround Russia and China.
At the same time the Obama Administration has been encouraging Russia and China and other nations to get rid of their nuclear weapons, to reduce their numbers of nuclear weapons something I’m in favor of. I want everyone to get rid of all of their nuclear weapons, but clearly there’s a hidden agenda here, on the part of the United States because clearly the U.S. wants Russia and China to reduce their numbers of nuclear weapons, which makes a first-strike attack more possible, especially it makes it more possible for missile defense system then to pick off a smaller retaliatory capability. So, one has to look at U.S. first-strike planning, both in terms of a nuclear attack and also this so-called missile defense system.
So coupled with satellites, coupled with the first-strike attack programs that are being developed from space this is all, very much, a dangerous, dangerous system that is under way.
Reminder
Robles: You spoke about the Nazim and he was speaking about WWIII. Do you see all these systems actually being put into use in the near future? I’m talking about U.S. actually launching World War III against Russia and China.
Gagnon: Well, you know, sometimes you don’t have to actually launch, sometimes these things serve as a loaded gun pointed at someone’s head, as a threat, so sometimes you don’t necessarily have to launch, but they still serve essentially the same function.
So I cannot predict whether or not the U.S. will actually launch nuclear weapons. Although I must say that we’re the only country on the planet that has ever used a nuclear weapon against other people.
Robles: Twice.
Gagnon: Like we did in Japan. So, clearly the U.S. is using these systems today, the deployment of these systems, to drive a new arms race. Think of that, as you surround Russia and China, those countries inevitably respond by modernizing their own capability, in China’s case; increasing their capabilities, getting submarines, taking their nuclear weapons off land, where they’re vulnerable to U.S. first-strike attack, putting them in more survivable submarines under the oceans.
So this creates new arms race. And I can promise you that American politicians are running around our country saying, “Oh my god, look what China is doing today! They’re increasing their military. We need more! They’re trying to take over the world.”
And so by the U.S. escalating in the way it has since the end of the, quote unquote, “Cold War”, that, in my mind, has never really ended, by the U.S. constant escalation, and now encirclement of Russia and China, the expansion of NATO to essentially surround Russia; this forces Russia and China to upgrade. And then the U.S. uses that as an excuse to continue its own military operations.
In the United States today out of every discretionary tax dollar 57% of every tax dollar, today in Amerika, goes to the United States military. It’s unrelenting. And they’re hollowing out our economy, they’re destroying social progress, cutting back on education, on health care, on mental health care; every kind of necessary program to run a decent society is under attack as the money is being moved into the military.
So clearly the United States Pentagon has become, there’s no doubt about it, the military arm of corporate globalization, and their primary job is to function as a resource extraction service for corporate globalization, corporate capitalism.
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End of Part 2
Part 3 will be posted in the near future. Stay “tuned”.
In part 3 of the interview with the Voice of Russia, Bruce Gagnon the coordinator for the Global Network Against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space describes how the United States has become a country that clearly fits in to Mussolini’s definition of fascism. There is no democracy in America today, Gagnon claims.
Robles: Now what you’re describing to me, I mean in the dictionary, if you look up the word “fascism”, it is a government controlled by corporations basically. You mentioned Nazi planners in the background starting all this stuff up. Would you characterize the US as being a fascist state at this point?
Gagnon:Well, I think it is true that Mussolini’s classic definition of fascism was the wedding of government and corporations. And there can be no doubt that’s what we have in America today. We have no democracy. Our country is fully under the control of corporate power. They buy the elections now, buy the Supreme Court.
In a decision just a couple of years ago: now allows corporations to put as much money into election campaigns as they like, they don’t even have to publicly declare where the money comes from.
And so our ability to have fair and free elections has been destroyed, has been drowned by the Supreme Court’s decision allowing unlimited corporate money. They basically said that corporations have the rights of people.
Robles: Unfortunately, Bruce we are about out of time. Is there anything you’d like to finish up with?
Gagnon:I’d just like to invite people to check out our website, which is spaceforpeace.org: the Global Network against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space. We were created 21 years ago and today we have a global membership. People all over the world who are working hard to get their country out of the program that the United States has developed, that is now swallowing up other countries around the world, pulling them into this very expensive Starwars program, so expensive that the US cannot afford to pay for it itself. It is now pulling in the so-called allied countries to help them pay for the entire program.
Robles: Ok, thank you very much. I visited your website, very interesting, a lot of material there. So, I recommend it for anybody out there. Thanks a lot, it was very interesting.
You were listening to an interview with Bruce Gagnon. He is the coordinator for the Global Network against Weapons and Nuclear Power in Space.
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